This is what is on her mind. In responding to the case, The Department of Family and Community Services told Mamamia it "was deeply saddened to hear about the disappearance of the child in 2014". I believe William's hair was shaved and may have been long prior to the disappearance. In that case it would still be in the wrong order though (you first walk out from the porch and then around the house). Mother of the UK's most premature twins who were given ZERO chance of survival says they are going from Do not sell or share my personal information. I wouldnt expect someone to say they heard something that felt like anything.She uses the word felt which describes something which can be experienced either physically through touch or emotionally through feelings. Their testimony was followed by a statement from William's biological parents, read out by their lawyer Michelle Swift, who was joined in the witness box by the biological grandmother. Um, and, uh, I'd fell back asleep and then that's when I woke up and she was gone. It is a quiet neighborhood where kids don't just go missing from one moment to another. It remains to be seen whether that move will be temporary or permanent for the girl, now aged 11. And wouldn't it make more sense to play "Daddy Tiger" with daddy (around)? I didn't think so -> it's the foster mother who feels guilty/responsible.Autumn. Why the difference? Do you know where he might have gone? Simply put they are telling us what they want us to know and nothing more.Adrian. Neither of the foster parents can be named for legal reasons. What I also realized is: its actually very weird that the faces of the foster parents are blurred in every interview video and that we dont know their names. "William was a jovial and boisterous little boy, his sense of humour and cheeky antics always made us smile," the foster father said. Now that you say it -> indeed she seems to quickly talk over him so as to prevent him from spilling details.Autumn. I had a meeting and I arrived back and there was a bit of confusion if William was with me, because hes always looking out for me and my car, and I was on my way back, and Id arrived back and been asked if William was with me and I said no, then I immediately got out of the car and started looking around, and within 5 minutes we raised the alarm and I think I ran the perimeter of the whole street within about 10-15 minutes, and I mean, he wouldnt, hes not a wanderer, he wouldnt even cross the street by himself. other daughter may have been to avoid saying what was on her mind, that they were not her own children, thus other foster child came out as other daughter. Melissa told Karlie's mom that Karlie grabbed the steering wheel when she was in the car. Zac said I swear to God and honest to God when talking about Karlie. We love our guns, land, rights, and freedom. We expect her to say you guys should know the details or I want to share this with you, but her saying have to represents her need to give them. Adrian - Heres a YouTube in which William and his sisters birth mother is interviewed:https://youtu.be/Z3HL7BPdVbk-Could the change to I from we be due to the foster mother knowing that the grandmother might not be willing to back up her story, so she thinks better of saying we there? The entire situation is sad. It is not related to time as we would expect something like nows the time. When there is suspected drug use, the missing child is further marginalized. Its BS. She is (holding picture up) 5 foot 7hold onlets do this goodwait, there she is. Nobody knew about it beforehand. My heart just sank because I thought those two cars were there for both of them," she said. I am the one that said I like the type of comments Lucia offered. Lindsay moved away to a larger city several years prior and wanted Karlie to continue to live in a small town. To the south of Bishop are the Black Mountains (Black is the opposite of White). I might have missed it but I havent noticed them taking responsibility for anything here.Adrian. "Like water, followed the path of least resistance."Underground. She could have even asked Dr Phil What do you mean by harmed her but it seems her mind automatically jumped straight to death as if the knowledge was already there. At the date reported missing, he was 3 years, 3 months old; incapable of survival, protection or caring for self. William's foster parents have both vehemently denied any involvement in his disappearance. Is there anything you want me to say to Caylee, any new thoughts or anything. (Post continues after podcast.). It also can represent a firm answer like someone is saying youre way off track or youre getting the wrong idea. But wouldnt the neighbors have noticed the presence of another family member(s car)? They sold the five-bedroom house with a swimming pool where William had lived from early 2012 until his disappearance for more than $4million last year. Thanks for the link Autumn.Just a snippet from the Police interview, how they have got away with this makes the mind boggle.Police: When did things start to go awry?Mother: Well, when I realised that William was missing, I [just], I think back to that moment where I [just] went, I cant hear him, why, why cant I hear him, and I [walked around], [seriously] it was [just] 2, [3] metres away from where we were sitting, and Ive [just walked out], and I [just see nothing]The mother tells us she was sitting 2 to 3 metres away from William. But she later said she and the foster father had been 'incredibly fortunate to have William come into out lives'. Why not by their names? [She was awake]This is a very good example on the use of the word just and also on how telling a direct lie can cause leaks in spoken word or body language. I feel a little helpless here. Peter used the example of the Police officer asking a driver how many drinks he had drunk with the answer most frequently given being just two officer. She had lied to me and told me that she was at the football game. I usually dont become emotional when seeing people cry due to numbness from PTSD, but I literally felt her painso incredibly sadshe is gutted by the loss of William. How why who was he to me? Any other distinguishing features? Amazing.The talent here shows they wont get away with it.Justice always prevails.Except for TB. We have been working off a transcript which has been tidied up to make it more reader friendly. Why? Good links I am going to take a look now. Are you watching the video? "She continued to ask where her brother was she was deeply missing her best friend and we had no answers.". Interestingly Melissa mentions a town to the south of Chalfant in the shorter video, see the following quote:And, um, we are going to potentially have the helicopter do the search over a very large area so far, all the way around us, all the way down to, like, Laws. However, this change implies that she realized already at the start of that sentence that she was about to give something away she didnt want to. He places himself at the scene.This is a classic example of how people minds automatically try to make sense of what they are being told, how we end up helping a liar by finding a way to makes their lies make sense. And he was playing on the, the grass and then what he did was, he went, ehm, just around to the right. "William's empty car seat in his sister's next to the back seat absolutely tore our hearts," the foster mother said. By the way, its strange that the foster mother says she and Nanna were out there talking. "Nothing" includes "thing". And, um, so, um, we hung out for a little bit in the kitchen, talked a bunch, and then her brothers went to bed Her first reference to "hung out", initially I flagged for sounding like she was more a peer than a stepmother. Leigh.OT-Karlie GuseThanks for the transcript it must have taken some time do it. I dont know what exactly.-The world is cruel and the world is real -> Is that what really happened? And he knows better. She uses the word lie rather than truth. She states that there were two other cars across the road from Nanna's home that morning. Parents feel guilty if a child has a small tumble because they think they should have been there to catch them. I thought you suggested that he was buried under a path in the bush, but you probably meant in the bush that is situated down/at the end of the path. September 13 - Police reveal they found a burned out car wreck belonging to a former person of interest. So who are these Walking Warriors ? Flooding?Environmental conditions: Does the missing person suffer from adult autism, or has mental retardation? We were just, I was out there talking with my mum and my other daughter soThe repeated no does show sensitivity to the question. A liar avoids a direct lie as it causes stress and could also lead to words spoken which may later be proved untrue. Unless William was under a car. Adrian. As the family statement was delivered to an emotional courtroom, William's birth grandmother sobbed in the witness box. In the latter case the time between the foster mother taking the patio picture and William disappearing was very short. I would expect that to be the number 1 reason why she called.I also find the following quote from the 000-call interesting:No, no, no, no well not that I no not that I'm aware of. And again: why in that case say other? If it was Melissa instead of Karlie, I wonder what she was doing holding a paper up in the air (maybe it was a missing poster or something -> but I also read that the neighbor saw her writing something down).Autumn, John, thats right. Only in this case, obviously the cell signal was fine judging from the mother making the emergency phone call! Did Little Tara do it? Melissa mentioned that they would potentially have the helicopter do the search all the way down to, like, Laws. And, this is last years picture (holding picture up) so she, shes a little bit different, but, not much shes still like adorably cute. All that information was given by the parents freely; they are words that their minds selected when talking about William.Adrian. The foster mother of missing child William Tyrrell provided a NSW Crime Commission hearing about the boys disappearance with false or misleading information, police have alleged. "If it doesn't, when I am officially adult, I will be in the police force, a detective specifically, and I will find my brother and not give up until he is found. To have the car out of the picture so that it was less likely to be searched for forensic evidence?One thing I found odd was the mother saying in the 60 minutes interview (when asked when she last saw William): Playing around that patio area. The last reference she made where she stated that I dont want her story to die. That is bothersome. The foster family continues to share a close bond with former detective Gary Jubelin who lead the investigation for four years before he was convicted for illegally recording four conversations with former suspect Paul Savage. Since there is a Little Tara, who is Big Tara?Was William Big Tara? A bit of theatre on their part.When the mind delivers the word just to the mouth it may be deceptive or it may be genuine. This is why the repeated words and sensitivity are there as she cannot truthfully answer that question. Stories can be made up and this is a reality. Love and concern for Karlie? "Autumn, Lucia showed a good example of the discipline within analysis:she may have felt this or that, but restrained opinion to principle. Thanks General! William Tyrrells foster parents have been charged over the alleged assault of a child following investigations looking into the little boys disappearance. I am wondering if there are significant enough differences between American English and British/Australian English? I need to watch it now and pay close attention to body language. Additionally we don't know what William actually looked like at the time of disappearance. https://www.atelevisao.com/cabo/maddie-policia-tera-oferecido-liberdade-gerry-kate-confessasse-crime/amp/Translation tells me police want Kate to admit she did something to Maddie and want her to tell where she hid Maddie, then Gerry will be set free and she will only get 2 years in prison.That's how European countries let criminals on the streets, they give them pathetic sentences and half the time is being reduced because of 'good behaviour', I feel ashame to be European when it comes to this. In addition: the foster parents dont show any signs of anger towards the alleged kidnapper(s). It`s just hard. Freckle on top of head = mothers perspective in her mind is looking down at William.Looking down a well shaft?William was roarimg. During the inquest she said she saw no less than three suspicious cars and even exchanged fleeting Why are you watching me? His foster parents are reported to be persons of interest in the case, December 15, 2021: Police reveal a bone fragment of unknown origin has been found in the search ahead, and are planning to wrap up the search by the end of the week, By Good link David. Her kind of pushing the child to climb a tree.The mothers I have known and seen rather don't see their 3 year olds climb in anything, let alone a tree. I agree with you that if someone says they see nothing it represents them being blind, like you said that could be because of darkness or other factors. A car has been seized from a property in Sydney as part of fresh investigations into the disappearance of William Tyrrell seven years ago. She wanted William to grow up being 'socially aware, a good contributor to society and is happy and is fulfilling doing the things he wants to do'. I mainly just observe because you guys are all so advanced with your crime-solving. William Tyrrell foster care: why did that remain secret for - Mamamia It is the same as saying I kid you not. Detectives from Strike Force Rosann received information relating to the suspected assault of a child, who is not William, at a home in Sydney's Upper North Shore. All rights reserved. William Tyrrell's foster mother to plead not guilty to new - ABC This caller does not want to be psychologically "alone" with the information. The inquest heard how a man who claims he saw William Tyrrell unrestrained in the back of a speeding car on the day the child went missing was waiting for police to interview him to tell them what he saw. [Cant, didnt, and dont] are all in the negative. I have only had a quick listen but I noticed that extra words had been added to the transcript to make it read better also.I revised a few sentences to show how badly off the original transcript is so we need to look at it again to see what he been omitted.Original transcript:I had a meeting and I arrived back and there was a bit of confusion if William was with me, because hes always looking out for me and my car, and I was on my way back, and Id arrived back and been asked if William was with me and I said no, then I immediately got out of the carRevised transcript:I`d, I`d had a meeting and I arriv., I arrived back and, and there was a little bit of confusion as to whether William was with me, because he, he was, hes always looking out for me and my car, and ah.. and I was on my way back, and Id arrived back and, and ah.. and I err, erm.. then asked if William was with me and I said no, and um, and then err. In 2019, the foster mother tearfully told the podcast which arose from the 'Where's William' campaign that William's disappearance was 'the never-ending nightmare' in their lives. He was wearing a Spider-Man suit and playing in the yard with his five-year-old sister. Its as if they are in hiding.The foster parents also i.m.o. Autumn, you make some good points. Melissa also introduces a scenario where Karlie could be injured. But en route to Kendall they would allow William to eat at McDonald's, Heatherbrae, the halfway point, where the three-year-old was captured on CCTV the day before he disappeared. Their parents do. On Thursday they picked William and his sister up from daycare for the 4-hour drive to Nanna's house. Did the foster mother (1) not want to reveal the presence of her sister, (2) realize she was about to do so and (3) quickly say "my other daughter" instead of my sister/mums other daughter? February 19- Homicide detectives take over the case and say it's likely William was abducted. This kind of confusion of pronouns is not natural. When you say arriving quickly it sounds like driving. His disappearance was also the subject of a coronial inquest. The car makes a u-turn. I heard from him once when he got out, I felt so bad because he had nothing.'. And he was playing on the, the grass ()It seems so weird to say sitting on two chairs. ^^ i don't know why that will not display my G/account? William Tyrrell's foster mother has been acquitted of giving false or misleading evidence. An inquest in the NSW Coroners Court is examining his disappearance and suspected death. The last time that I [spoke] to her was 5:30. If you are able to speak to someone, cant you see them as well? I am aware there are many reasons for past tense usage in statements. Maybe its a ploy. A Supreme Court justice allowed his foster care status to be revealed in August 2017, in what had been an open secret to those who had followed the case for years prior. She didn't want to "turn on the light", because she didn't want to wake the kids! To say you have to do something is different from actually doing it. April 17 - Police say the boy may have been a victim of a paedophile ring. In the case of William's foster mother: does the world seemingly stop turning when you can't immediately see/hear your child? [2] So I think other daughter may be more likely what the foster mother came up with than 100% reality. Melissa and Zac denied being asked about witness information and Dr Phil called them on that lie. The last time that I spoke to her was 5:30. And so, if you needed to know all that great. Should Buttigieg "know better" than to criticize Pence, or else? Bishop PD, CHP flying overthey had their copter today." The foster mother told the court how she was told not to call Mr Laidlaw, but to instead go through other investigators on the team. I'm not a murderer! That's not a reliable denial.Like you said it is not a reliable denial. 9:55pm Nov 4, 2022 NOW William Tyrrell's foster mum not guilty of lying to crime commission Couch destroys car in Sydney Protester glues hand to artwork in Parliament House Couple to face court today charged with the murder and torture of baby Survivor speaks after former drama teacher jailed Huge winter cruise season expected I will tell you why this detail is vivid in her mind. William Tyrrell's foster mother told a NSW coroner of the moment she recalled seeing two cars parked on a nearby road the morning he . If we look at he example we were discussing before we would have I just see nothing. She reports how long weve been searching for him, rather than how long he has been missing. And not just as some toy but she made sure to dress him in it?She talks about how bright and visible William was.She sold him. Nine months after William Tyrrell was born on June 26, 2011, he was taken from his birth parents, who had a history of substance abuse and domestic violence. Melissa said on Dr. Phil, that Karlie was as "white as a ghost". This comment has been removed by the author. After watching the clip and seeing how his wife took control of the situation when the sensitive point came up it reinforces everything we already know.I feel sorry for the interviewer who was in tears on multiple occasions regarding the story. Harm is a word which covers a wide range of injuries; harm can be mental or physical and it can be minor or fatal. I am absolutely loving how you guys are solving this crime. I love you all, everybody please watch. (con't). Three past tense references from Williams father.While listening through the interview looking for omitted parts of the transcript I found:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZALVhn0hElY8m 15 secondsP: Parents know their own kids, dont they?D: He [was] cautious, hed cower away as little children would normally do, but he [was], he [had] this instinct about him about doing the right and wrong thing.Two uses of the word was, instead of he is cautious we get he [was] cautious. The fact that she needs to do all this means there is much more to what happened than we are being told.This case seems very similar to the DeOrre Kunz case in that in order to perpetuate the deception multiple witnesses to what happened must work as team to keep the truth for getting out.Adrian. Do you know where he might have gone?Foster Mother: Um, we're a li-, we actually live, well mother's property's near a State forest (Operator: OK) and they're on huge blocks. Just like Deorr.They last saw him at the campfire with the Grandpa at the campground.DEORR WAS NEVER EVEN THERE.SAME WITH THIS BOY.FATHER CARRIED HIM DOWNHILL. I wonder: is she herself trying to send us a message between the lines? "I can't tell you how much I rack my brain over the number plates; I beatmyself up," she said. And, now I can release more information about the events, just, lots of questions that I haven't been allowed to talk about because of the investigation. Autumn, Autumn said"John, I didn't read your comment carefully enough. June 14 - William's grandmother scolds police who have failed to find the young boy after four years, and claims their latest search is 'just for show'. From Mind to Matter,I had the same thought when watching the 60 minutes interview: that I can't believe they got away with it.The mother's story is riddled with inconsistencies and impossibilities.The fact they have an earnest detective slaving his life away thinking he is solving an abduction is mindboggling.Yes also it is like the Kuntz case in that multiple people know the truth. When I first watched it, I had to transcribe it because something was not making sense. William Tyrrell's foster-mother has given her account of what happened the day he disappeared By crime reporter Mark Reddie Posted Fri 19 Nov 2021 at 12:18pm William's foster-mother told an inquest in 2019 that he was playing a game he called "tigers' before he disappeared. Maybe the Dad would dress him as a boy? If his hair was longer, shaved, etc. What is she talking about. She self-censors as it looks like she was going to say not that I know of but changes to say aware of which makes a big difference. April 2, 2019 at 11:11 PM Hamish said . The inquest's first batch of hearings focused on William's family situation and the events leading up to his disappearance. So every time we go somewhere I have my camera and I just take pictures of what theyre doing, and I thought, ehm, you know, Mums getting old, be really good for William and William and his sister to have, ehm, memories of being at Mums. Alicia, youre calling me? He'd told a chemist 'I need them (pills) because I lost my son seven years ago', and reportedly began to cry. Why this outpouring of love? The friend was trying to share a problem without telling the full truth and my daughter figured out that he had been sexually abused by his step mother! She merely mentions that the neighbor says he saw her. Autumn pointed out the statement because I dont know what to do to consider her a missing person. Watched a movie and she was just still kind of paranoid. Sometimes it gets stronger as you get older. William Tyrrell's former foster mum 'knows where he is', cop claims Also: in that case the foster parents probably would not have been allowed to have another foster child ever again. Like the rest of the world, she's desperate for the truth about William's disappearance. We always enjoy watching your show every night Im writing to you now and informing you of some news my daughter Karlie Guse went on a walk this morning and nwver [sic] returned. In the next breathe she tells us that the idea never crossed her mind which makes us question why she is introducing it into her language. It is pure fabrication. She has blue eyes and the cutest little nose and a great smile and her hair goes all the way down past her, like, to her belly lets say-mid waist. Investigations under strike force Rosann continue.. Mamamia contacted the group, but they were unable to respond in time for publishing. It was like she was reporting the whole thing as witness, rather than a concerned mother. She also used it in the Dr. Phil interview. "It was a traumatic experience for both. Also it was kept quiet by police etc that William and his sister were in foster care. This car drives by Nannas house around the time William was riding his bike on the driveway. Perhaps the third just means that she compares (1) the entire situation simply going away (i.e. However, a cancelled meeting allowed the family to make the four-hour trip north on September 11, a day ahead of schedule. Watch the latest news and stream for . Autumns last post led me here.I want to put this on blast because I [dont know] what to do to consider her a missing person. It's amazing. She tells us she was just there which minimises in terms of location. The comments below have been moderated in advance. William Tyrrell's foster parents have been charged over the alleged assault of a child following investigations looking into the little boy's disappearance. Her husband was in town. If the parent returned to find their child had drowned in their short absence what will they do?

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