yeah, i was thinking specifically about how adversely people reacted when shindong interacted with wendy and april, as well as how fandoms seem to flip flop between loving and hating heechul for promoting their girl group faves. 188. The group had 13 members in the beginning, however, it split into subgroups eventually. A list of my current favourites and must watch Korean variety shows! your fave is problematic Who woulda though? As I went through the year 2016, I came to think about that my words or behaviors , regardless of my intentions could cause troubles or hurt others feelings. The same applies to Big Bang as well. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. Responsible for incident, problem and escalation process alignment between Ziggo, UPC and Liberty Global, collaboration with external and internal stakeholders, creation and updates of relevant process and project documentation. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. jan. 3 2017 namjoon went on vlive making a kind of new years resolution: Ive never thought my behaviors and my musical words could hurt others or cause inconvenience to others. Register yourself now and be a part of our community! Is super junior really that problematic??? Genuine question as the ), jan. 2021 took pictures with a nazi statue, sinb said sowons name in her phone was kitler which is a combination between sowons name and hitler, on a variety show the members were seen mocking african hairstyles by twisting their hair and making noises. Cho Kyu Hyun () - MyDramaList External Content The ironic thing is that looking androgynous is actually exactly what taemin wanted to be nnnnnn thats literally his avant garde approach to his image ever since becoming a solo artist: breaking gender norms and the toxic expectation that men are masculine by default and those who also have feminine features arent real men. Like if you're going to criticise Super Junior, at least focus your attention towards the most problematic members like Leeteuk (mostly owing to his abused past and that Krystal incident). Amsterdam, North Holland, Netherlands. That statements doesn't sound problematic. Op is exactly one of those people he wants to criticise fjggllfj, I honestly think OP is just mad because those twitter stans were mad at it, and she saw it, I think she's quite young too, so I'm guessing her thinking was greatly influenced by them. Donald Glover (Childish Gambino) Drew Barrymore. She was messy all her time during SM this is not a single event or them the only group something nasty happened. Dont have an account yet? bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. Super Junior is the only group acknowledged by World Health Organization, Why Shinee is successful charting on Melon but Super Junior had so much difficulty, Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. Y'all funny. People act like theyre unforgivable. The boys and girls were antagonizing each other with pranks and sneaking into each other's dorms. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. Theres some things some Super Junior members have done that can be considered problematic but this aint one. i was going to make a long post regarding kpop fans negative attitude towards age, but essentially: i have no idea why people react so adversely to older people in the kpop sphere on contact, especially because the people who actually create kpop content, 90% of the time are ages 30 and up. Retweets. 5) | [King of Kings' Challenge] (Ep. WimbledonSW19; Jan . * i have beef with the word problematic. Be quiet and do your job and things go well. Reactions 34,589 Posts 62,060 . A/N: The next group is ATEEZ. We were only offered 15% off the bill and our drinks free when we complained. The chicken was pink (under cooked) and opaque. This is just my take so don't take it too seriously. As a brief context, Kangin eventually left the group after committing two assaults and DUIs. i've got in arguments with a lot of these fake woke stans and when i point it out they stop replying me lmao. In fact since op is so young they should learn more about worldly matters if they dont want to end up being a close-minded bigot down the line. i mean sure i get that, but op literally replied stop being creepy and delulu to this exact post: There's nothing wrong with being androgenous looking., Which is a pretty clear tell of what op thinks about someone being called androgynous ie. of one people of society by members of another and typically more dominant people or society, transphobic - having or showing dislike of or prejudice against transgender or transsexual people, homophobic - having or showing dislike of a prejudice against gay people, four days later jhope had braids again for a another micdrop performance, september 26 2019 jhope for his chiken noodle soup remake had gel twits and he also commissioned the album art which used rastafarian colors and what looked to be like locs. this framing of super junior is personal to a lot of people in this fandom. however, i did want to point out, that in fandoms (kpop and beyond), perception often takes place of reality. What annoys me the most is those hating on Shindong for fatshaming, yet doing the same to him. Emilie Autumn. Have you looked into how these specific comments and statements played out in the nation itself? he commissioned his favorite artist to make the album art, march 3 2020 while reacting to an old video namjoon called his debut hair dope and laughed, may 2020 yoongi released his mixtape which one of the tracks he sampled cult leader jim jones who was responsible for killing hundreds of black people. The more optics are observed, the stronger your points will eventually be! to see you twist things just to fit your narrative just to hate on him for the less problematic things i saw this days, and it's not the first time i see you doing this, grow up -_-, I personally don't think this particular statement was that bad, of course he has made some problematic comments before, but I don't think this is one of those, without mentionning that you're a really sad person, making a thread about something so miniscule and then attacking people who tell you that you're making a big fuss out of nothing, if you can't handle comments about threads you make, you should stay away from doing thread -_-. they think its a creepy thing to say that a man has feminine looks. The restaurant is relatively big and seems to be short staffed with only 3 servers present. they've either apologized or received pushback, either internationally or from korean fans. What went WRONG with Super Junior members? Its very disappointing that people in that have that much publicity are able to be that discriminative, but thats part of freedom of speech. but a lot of people will say they hate suju, while supporting their bias who did similar things. If yall want to hate them just do it, dont have involve. Not sure if it makes it acceptable to hate them, I just wanted to add it. i am not going to drop any names but there actually are other kpop idols who said love and or marriage can only happen between men and women. lovechart; Feb 23rd 2021; K-POP; Super Junior EVER.LASTING.FRIEND tag list. If y'all want to hate them just do it, don't have involve. people are allowed to dislike things for whatever reason they want. That's a long wait, softened by the fact the guys have been active in Japan as well. i don't say racist and sexist things in real life don't know about you. What is the consensus on this Super Junior title? Register yourself now and be a part of our community! most of the members are in their 20s and 30s, the peak of their youth. Also this is strange cause wouldnt the age be the first thing to check when you do these kind of scenes, Yall funny. I thought so. He was significantly larger. If someone is comfortable with the way they are and theyre actually happy with their body, then they should just be left alone. Amsterdam is overpriced for food to begin with, but milking more out of what is a decent and overpriced rice dinner to begin with is just too much. We were not disappointed at all. Own or manage this property? That's so normal, we're human, Suju is human too. 'woke' kpop fans love to call them trash for being problematic while stanning problemac idols that they don't even bother to aknowlage. Or is has his views changed? Jane Krakowski. i use it for it's simplicity, but it doesn't have any nuance. For more K-Pop news and updates, keep your tabs open here at KpopStarz. This place had a good amount of reviews and was next to our hotel. The fact that Super Junior isnt getting the respect they deserve as legends makes me so angry. Two other members of Super Junior have been found fat-shaming. We heard that Amsterdam had good Indonesian food and decided to give it a go. This is the version of our website addressed to speakers of English in the United States. Through the activation of external content, you agree that personal data may be transferred to third party platforms. Map updates are paused. Technical Project Manager. 3 shocking reasons why some people hate Super Junior 60-61, 116, 278, 464, 489-490) | [Special MC] (Ep. Yes, saying problematic things about fictional characters still count because they, like you said, do not exist in a vacuum. I got a spicy beef dish, the beef was super tender and the spice and flavor combination was perfect. So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. Actually up until a year into the industry I didnt even know what a Super Junior was, I assumed they were just an old boy group that had slowly faded from public eye. Among his problematic remarks, what garnered the most attention among K-pop fans were his opinions about former Super Junior Kangin and ASTRO Cha Eunwoo. because the kpop fandom often interacts as several factions of a hive mind, if there are certain perceptions that permeate these hives, a lot of people will take them as truth regardless. They were also shocked at her age. You can use them to display text, links, images, HTML, or a combination of these. The first reason that made viewers raise their brows was due to his misogynist remark about people behind the "women generation." Ive never thought that way. that ladys current issues to get a reason. An androgynous guy who looks as pretty as the girls dancing with him. It honestly disgusts me so much when I hear people fat shaming, especially when the person who is doing the shaming is fat. labelling everything as "problematic" doesn't really account for that. ", translation:Im really close with Eun-woo, he is good looking but he is a manly man. that pissed me off so much, gg stans use the words pedophile and harassment so loosely it's disgusting. In the process, I thought I need to hold responsibility for that and I need to think about such things. Just so long as you come at less busy hours. they refused to acknowledge that yoongi was seen mixing the speech himself and that he was one of the producers on the song, august 2020: for the dynamite live countdown, there was a tipi scene in the background, on a variety show namjoon joked about having second hand enjoyment to a book that depicted black woman as savages that also included a rape section (still being argued over with things like mistranslation or fake subs) but multiple people that have read or own the book have argued that there isnt a rape section or that there is because there was non consensual moments in the book, Most of their scandals can be found when searching super junior scandals or controversies, misogynist - a person who dislikes, despises, or is strongly prejudiced against women, fatphobic - the fear and/ or hatred of fat bodies, blackface - wearing makeup to imitate the appearance of a black person, culture appropriation - the unacknowledged or inappropriate adoption of the customs, practices, ideads, etc. [Hidden Singer] (Ep. Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Review tags are currently only available for English language reviews. A decade after their debut as a sub-unit, Super Junior-D&E have finally released their first full Korean album. [Round 1] Visual Battle Boy Groups: Super Junior, [theqoo] KPOP'S SUPER GROUP SUPERM NOMINATED FOR THE GRAMMYS. LIST OF ALL SUPER JUNIOR PROBLEMATIC THINGS - YouTube While talking about him being criticized for "not donating" just because he made it all in private, Heechul started cursing and calling them vulgar names. Although this online community for women doesn't have a good reputation, especially among K-pop fans, internet users think that it doesn't justify Heechul to swear and generalize the members. twitter.com bighit ended up releasing a statement saying they apologized for anyone who was offended and said they didnt purposely use the sample and that it happened because of the producer. VICE Media. :). allkpop is a registered trademark of 6Theory Media, LLC. Florence Welch (Florence and the Machine) Hilary Duff. also having an homophobe in the group doesn't help to be honest. i do not support any of their actions. people used this same argument to defend trump with the tape video. I think it is not a problem if the people have open-minded regarding that definition. you support pedophiles, huh?" Truly, utterly amazing. THIS Former K-pop Idol is Now University Professor! People need to leave him alone and let history be history. When I say this, the person might think, Look whos talking, but I would reply, Im a boy and youre a girl.- Shindong. add this to the unfortunate comments and actions certain members have said, or are thought to have said, and super junior go from being old men to being lecherous old men. We would like to show you a description here but the site won't allow us. Honestly Im at a lost of words for this group. kpop fans do this a lot when they hate someone -- drag them for their appearance and, while i can take it when it's done lightly, it hardly ever is. Op, you seem pretty young, but it's not the first time that you twist a situation and try to make an inexistent point. Super Junior member Shindong has drawn major online flak after his supposed commentary on Taemin's music video ' Advice ' went viral. If someone had to lose weight, I would tell that person to lose weight. Why it's Perfectly Acceptable to Hate Super Junior: A Thread. I dont know, but considering the current state of affairs in the Korean music industry they might notreally have much of a career left. Yeesung, another member of Super Junior has stated that he thinks obese people are lazy. So really this entire post is just one big reflection on why them fading out of the public eye is really just a blessing. there's a lot of other things, but since they were a long time ago they could get a pass. How does Super Junior still havecareers. Claim your listing for free to respond to reviews, update your profile and much more. A group of girls still tried it the first night. due to the purity/morality culture that's been permeating fandoms since circa 2010, there are "right" and "wrong things to align yourself with, and if you align yourself with the "wrong" people will have no qualms in reminding you of that. Dita Von Teese. Edit them in the Widget section of the. Why is super junior problematic? : r/kpophelp - Reddit How do I know because I asked her directly on social media. Saying that he does not like fat girls because he likes girls that "take care of their bodies". However the food quality and portion size was excellent in relation to the price. Gino Pelzer - Senior Campaign Manager - VICE Media | LinkedIn The fact that some fans have an issue with Taemin looking feminine tells more about them than the person who pointed it out in a non-insulting way Dont have an account yet? Your browser has JavaScript disabled. There's nothing in this to be mad about, twitter stans regardless of which fandoms creates issues out of non issues and this is one of them, though I'm not seeing any fellow Shawols of mine hating on him on tlist so it's probably just some edgy kpop stans hating on him. when you keep getting over and over in scandal then there might be a reason to hate. At the Noodle Cart: Korean edition [May 2020]. He will be like, bro bring that fucking asshole and hell slap their faces. Super Junior. The signing event was recently held to commemorate the release of Super Junior-D&E's first full-length album "COUNTDOWN." On this day, Eun-hyuk talked for two minutes per fan. He loves sports too. thats my goals., june 12 2017 namjoon posted photos of his debut hair, june 27 2017 during bon voyage jin in his letter to jungkook said that his face had gotten a lot darker during the trip so once they got back to korea he would give him a sheet mask to fix his skin, sept 21 during a knowing bros episode namjoon said he would have looked good with locs and so would one fo the men on the show, sept 22 2017 during the mic drop comeback dna performance jhope had braids. Pinky_Peachy. interesting i so understand that certain members of SJ have gotten into issues before so therefore you don't like them correct? anyway, Siwon apologized sincerely for RTing that stuff and said he was going to educate himself and reflect on his beliefs. Aneka Rasa should reconsider their moneymaking policies before more people find out and give them the thumbs down. As a fan of Taemin, I do believe he can look feminine at times like a lot of idols. In fact since op is so young they should learn more about worldly matters if they dont want to end up being a close-minded bigot down the line. A lot of those have come with apologies, some haven't, as is kpop tradition. like if you say "i dont think this is pedophilia" they can easily turn it on you and say "oh, so you don't beleive victims? labelling everything as "problematic" doesn't really account for that. Maybe he poorly phrased it, or perhaps the translation wasn't the best, as it tends to happen and lead to misunderstandings (I saw no Korean fans getting mad at this). And I dont really have an idea to what extent suju is in terms of being caught into controversies and lot of problems. Dont have an account yet? 20221 jaar. 568), (Ep. If you are a resident of another country or region, please select the appropriate version of Tripadvisor for your country or region in the drop-down menu. It would have been interesting for you to show what the discourse is surrounding these issues in Korea in general, which is a country that tends to be very harsh when dealing with body types that deviate from what is decided to be acceptable. i made this powerpoint in 6 hours give or take bc i hate sending long ass tumblr posts with false info so i did my own research some stuff may be a little incorrect but its ok i got most of it because i am boy bossing ityes the music sucks i knowedit + my note:yes, i do still listen to suju, i believe that they have changed as people for the better of it. Nvis we love you. it's actually scary how, recently, maneuvering the the topic of pedophilia has become almost manipulative. a list of problematic groups/soloists or problematic things they have done. We only took a few bites from the main dishes before we had realised we made the wrong decision. Members Seungyoon and Jinwoo were invited to dance to the popular TikTok dance, ZeroTwo, during a game corner. She also has nothing but kind words and said that they were kind to work with. no one has to like them, but it's clear that they are an Acceptable Target, usually for convoluted reasons. He built such an image on TV, but if he heard about school bullying, he would be like, 'Hyungnim, bring that f*cker here,' and slap them. . This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies. P1Harmony 5th Mini Album 'HARMONY : SET IN' OUT NOW!! Fast forward to 2015 and he played a character who was openly okay with gay and shared many homoerotic scenes with his fellow cast member.

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